it's not from a general election debate. this is from the republican primary that is one of the greatest mistakes. >> it's three agencies of government that are gone when i get there commerce, education -- and what's the third one there -- let's see commerce be education and the... >> e.p.a.? >> there you go. >> let's talk -- >> wait a minute. wait. wait. >> is e.p.a. what you were talking about? >> nos, we were talking about the -- agencies in government. e.p.a. needs to be rebuilt there's no doubt about that. >> you can't name the third one? >> the third agency of government, i would do away with education, the. >> come on, come on, you can do it. >> commerce, and let's see... i can't. the third one i can't. >> right there. slip of the tongue. >> oops. >> oops, i can't. oops. that's great. all right so that was rick perry in the presidential debates from the primaries. our number here is 1-866-55-press. those are pretty good debate moments and pretty fun ones. i think the debates do matter. i think you can change the cours